Episode #174: You have Received Mail – Consolation Rewatch

This week, we’re dissecting one other favourite consolation watch film for decor and residential inspiration.

That is an ongoing sequence for us, and this week’s choice is You’ve Got Mail, a Nora Ephron movie from 1998. That is positively a millennial consolation film to THE CORE.

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Present Notes

Our favourite design parts:

Kathleen’s brownstone condo:

-Window seat
-Ornamental daisy trim across the doorways
-Hung plate assortment

Picture credit score: Jonara Oliveira

Kathleen’s bookstore “The Store Round The Nook”:

-Twinkle lights
-Checkered flooring

Joe’s condo:

-Black metals
-Sharper edges
-Trendy type

Different cozy inspiration:

-Meg Ryan’s fairy hat


-Cozy outfits: cardigans, white tights with a skirt, sweaters
-’90s hair: small highlights and crisscrossed center half
-Dishevelled fits

What aged nicely vs. what didn’t on this film: 

-Flirting on-line whereas in a relationship

Charge the film from 0 to five bouquets of freshly sharpened pencils:

Elsie – 5
Emma – 5

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Episode 174 Transcript:

Emma: You’re listening to the A Lovely Mess Podcast, your cozy consolation pay attention. This week we’re dissecting a favourite consolation watch film for decor and residential inspiration. That is an ongoing sequence for us, and this week’s choice is You’ve Received Mail a Nora Efron movie from 1998. That is positively a millennial consolation film to the core. I used to be so excited to rewatch this one. 

Elsie: Yeah. I had such a beautiful time, we truly watched it on Valentine’s Day. It’s so cozy and magical, great, all of the issues. Ought to we describe it a bit, I do know there’s in all probability isn’t anybody who hasn’t watched, however simply in case 

Emma: Yeah, yeah. Go forward. Simply in case. 

Elsie: Okay, so Joe Fox performed by Tom Hanks, he’s just about an individual who owns Barnes and Noble, who’s opening a Barnes and Noble in New York Metropolis. However they don’t name it Barnes and Noble. 

Emma: They name it Fox Books. 

Elsie: Kathleen Kelly performed by Meg Ryan is the proprietor of a magical, lovely little bookshop referred to as the Store Across the Nook, which can also be proper across the nook from the imposing Barnes and Noble. They’ve turn into kind of like on-line pin friends within the earliest, most primitive potential model of the web. And so yeah, the film known as You’ve Received Mail as a result of it’s nonetheless within the period the place the pc says you’ve obtained mail each time she opens her pc. It is vitally nostalgic from a know-how standpoint, form of stunning, form of jarring, it makes the passage of time actually clear. Tom Hanks is outdated, however he’s not that outdated, issues have actually modified on this period of time, it’s beautiful. Past that, it’s actually a easy, cozy romantic comedy. 

Emma: Yeah, that’s what I’d say too. And should you’re a guide lover, then it’s a type of films the place there’s two completely different bookstores in it and many, you understand. So I really feel like plenty of instances after I learn books, clearly, authors love studying as a result of they’re writers. So there’s plenty of like bookstores and libraries are likely to pop up as widespread issues, so it’s enjoyable to see them in films too, as a result of I’m a guide lover, as is Elsie, in order that’s enjoyable. 

Elsie: Yeah. So now that I’m a literary individual, I could make feedback like this. Have you ever seen that in each single guide and film, when there’s a literary feminine character, her favourite novel is at all times Delight and Prejudice. It’s at all times, at all times, at all times satisfaction and prejudice each single time.

Emma: I wished to speak about that too, as a result of, I discovered it just a little humorous. Okay, so primary, I’ll say I really like Delight and Prejudice, I actually do. It’s positively in my prime 10 or not less than the highest 20 books of all time. I Love Jane Austin, usually, Delight and Prejudice might be one among my favorites, so I get it, man. It’s not like I’m hating, however I additionally felt such as you personal a bookstore and your itemizing is your favourite guide, probably the most cliche decide of all time. I simply discovered it form of unusual, as a result of they had been speaking about their favourite books and I’m like, wouldn’t you wanna decide one thing just a little bit completely different?

Elsie: Yeah, I agree as a result of I do know book-snob folks now they usually don’t identify that as their favourite novel. So anyway, simply an attention-grabbing factor that for some purpose, despite the fact that it’s been about possibly 30 years virtually since this film was made, hasn’t modified in any respect. Within the films and books, everybody nonetheless simply loves Delight and Prejudice and solely has references from that. Anyway, so let’s discuss. We’re gonna dissect the film for cozy inspiration. So final time we did twilight and twilight, I’ll say it was low on the comfy inspiration meter. Not like zero, but it surely’s decrease. This one could be very, very, very excessive on the inspiration meter, I’d name this film like Eye Sweet. I might get pleasure from watching it with the hold forth. Like simply taking a look at stills. So should you haven’t watched it otherwise you haven’t watched it in years, Google, You’ve Received Mail, film stills, or You’ve Received Mail, condo and you will note all of the issues we’re speaking about. So I wished to first discuss Kathleen’s Brownstone condo.

So this is without doubt one of the very, very Coziest film units, most iconic film units of, I’d say, all romantic comedies. It’s romantic comedy gold, so I find it irresistible. So let’s simply dissect for a minute. So to start with, it has a window seat within the entrance front room and I simply love a window seat. I really feel like when you have a window, an enormous window, a bay window, and there’s nothing there, you had been placed on this planet so as to add a window seat to that window, proper? 

Emma: Yeah, it is best to. And not less than as soon as sit there and browse a guide, I do know you’re in all probability gonna find yourself on the sofa or in your mattress. That’s what you understand. It’s identical to the romantic thought of the place you wanna be sitting studying a guide, which is within the window seat. 

Elsie: Take an image of your self studying there after which transfer to the sofa the place it’s extra snug, that’s high-quality, now we have proof of that. Okay, after which the opposite factor I’m obsessive about from this condo is that the trim across the doorways has these little daisies, like carved wooden, daisies, appliques, it’s identical to actually, actually good ornamental trim. Okay, so I wanna use this in my life. How concerning the pink home it’s the one factor I don’t like concerning the pink home is that it has a farmhouse, like trendy farmhouse trim. They modernized it an excessive amount of they usually additionally put barn doorways. That’s the 2 issues that I’d actually change. So I used to be making an attempt to think about a approach that I might use the inspiration of this daisy trim on these doorways. Possibly I might someway add it so I didn’t even should take away it someway, identical to spruce it as much as make it look extra historic.

However anyway, I’ll put both an image or a observe or a hyperlink, within the present notes this week so you possibly can see this daisy trim up shut as a result of it’s a essential element. And for me, woodwork and molding, it’s one among my renovation obsessions, I find it irresistible. Don’t skip over it, if it’s a must to put new trim up already, put cool trim, put particular trim. This can be a superb instance of one thing that’s a small distinction, however far more particular. 

Emma: Yeah. And customarily, I’d say her condo feels just a little bit like cottage vibes, however you can also very a lot inform that it’s a New York condo and it’s alleged to be a New York condo. And in addition her boyfriend at the start of the film is a author. He writes for the newspaper, I believe the Washington poster, possibly the New York Occasions. I can’t bear in mind which one they are saying within the film, however he writes for a newspaper, so he’s a author, so that they’re each literary folks. So I really feel prefer it simply has that vibe of their condo, he has an outdated typewriter. There’s simply the sensation of, this being a contemporary New York condo, however the type isn’t trendy, it’s extra cottagey and comfy. 

Elsie: From my expertise, happening a New York home purchasing rabbit gap, that’s true. There are many houses the place there’s tons and many authentic molding, like one of the best authentic molding I’ve ever seen anyplace, there are such a lot of, and that’s a quite common function. Possibly it’s as a result of that a part of the nation was constructed earlier. I don’t know why it’s so significantly better there. 

Emma: I believe it’s a mix of issues being constructed earlier. You understand, like when you have one thing that’s 100 years outdated versus 20 years outdated, I really feel such as you’re extra more likely to hold the hundred-year-old factor simply because. In order that, after which I additionally marvel about some areas of the nation, and I’m not a New York native, New York Metropolis native in any respect, by no means lived there. Don’t know. So it might be completely unsuitable, however my impression is it is perhaps just a little bit tougher to renovate there. There are simply not as many Dwelling Depots and Lowe’s round such as you’re within the Midwest, like anybody can stroll in. It’s just a bit bit simpler to form of change issues. So I form of marvel if possibly that’s a part of it too, issues get stored as a result of it’s simply extra cumbersome to vary out trim. So like why would you? 

Elsie: Additionally, it’s an even bigger renting tradition. So it’s not a lot gutting and renovating. 

Emma: Yeah, that may be my guess. 

Elsie: Then another factor from Kathleen’s condo was her hung plate assortment. So each Nancy Meyers or Nora Efron film has a hung plate assortment. So only a assortment of lovely vintage plates all hung in just a little assortment on a wall. I do know that it’s verifiably a grandma factor, however I additionally assume it’s positively, you understand the type they name grand millennial? It’s very drawn to it and I’m very into it.

Emma: Sometime we shall be grandma, millennials, hopefully.

Elsie: Okay, after which subsequent let’s discuss Kathleen’s bookstore, the store across the nook. So it’s positively the proper vintage store, every little thing is outdated. It’s like wooden trim, wooden counter, every little thing seems prefer it’s 100 years outdated. And there have been a bunch of various companies all through historical past in that area. However it’s a kids’s bookstore. Is it only a kids’s bookstore or is it a bookstore for everybody? I assume I’m not clear on that. It is perhaps each, but it surely has an enormous kids’s part, that’s an enormous emphasis on what they present on digital camera.

Emma: Sure, as a result of she has story time the place she reads books to kids and generally there’s like kids within the neighborhood who appear to know her, the girl from the following door. So it positively is heavy on child stuff, however I can’t bear in mind within the film if they’ve grownup books and issues too. I really feel like Sure, however I actually can’t bear in mind now.

Elsie: I believe so too, I don’t know. The store could be very, very cute and my favourite element from it’s that there’s a scene the place they’re hanging twinkle lights and he or she is speaking about how she thinks there ought to at all times be twinkle lights and prefer it’s not simply Christmas factor, every little thing simply wants twinkle lights, which is how I really feel. I fully agree. Simply get the twinkle lights out any time of yr, any day, any time I help it. Is there anything about her, the store across the nook that caught out to you as cozy and cute? 

Emma: Possibly I’ll convey this up now, but it surely’s in a bunch of units within the film or areas within the film, there have been so many checkered flooring like there have been tile checkered flooring. The bookshop’s, one among ’em, Tom Hank’s character, his condo had one among ’em, and there was not less than another, and I can’t bear in mind now, possibly it was within the Fox Bookstore. However I liked it. I solely have one little area in my home that has checkered flooring in my laundry room. However I simply love that look, it’s so basic. That they had completely different ones, I really feel like one was black and white, one was like two tones of brown, form of an off-white and a darker brown, which may have been the bookstore. And I simply stored seeing it within the film and I used to be like, checkered flooring. Checkered flooring, checkered flooring. 

Elsie: That’s inspiring, what number of instances do you assume you possibly can have a checkered ground in a single home, like three or 4? Is that too many?

Emma: I imply, how massive is your own home?

Elsie: In an enormous home. In an enormous home? Yeah. 

Emma: Yeah. Undoubtedly three or 4. Is it magnificence and the beast? Such as you obtained a West Wing or like what’s occurring? , 

Elsie: I dunno. No, an everyday home. I’m speaking about my home. My new home. 

Emma: Yeah. Your present home? Oh, your new home. Yeah, you possibly can in all probability have three or 4. I might have had extra, I thought of placing it within the entryway too, however I don’t know. I actually love simply having one ground in a lot of the home. However in areas which have water, just like the laundry room in case the washer and dryer are over flooring, it feels good to have tile in there, after which now we have tile within the bogs. However even my kitchen has wooden floors. 

Elsie: I really like wooden floors within the kitchen. 

Emma: Yeah. Reverse of you, the boring model of you, that’s me. I’m like, hold it easy. 

Elsie: That’s not true in any respect. Certainly one of my favourite moments from your entire film is when she’s doing story time and he or she’s carrying that fairy hat, like a fairytale hat. It’s simply so cute, that’s the nonetheless from the film that I believe exhibits up most frequently on the web and it’s every little thing. So yeah, like possibly we have to get hats like that so we will identical to learn to our youngsters and really feel like we’re in a Nora Efron film.

Emma: Actually, should you wished to turn into like we learn books on the library, I’d completely do it with you. It will be very enjoyable. 

Elsie: Okay, yeah, no I’d positively love to try this, that’s enjoyable. The place are every other cozy interiors you seen? I do know we simply talked concerning the flooring. I assumed the little espresso store the place that they had their meetup, the place she had the roses on the desk was very charming, and the grocery retailer. There was a grocery retailer too. 

Emma: The grocery retailer felt very New York, I liked it. It felt very massive bodega feeling in there. Yeah, and I additionally really feel prefer it’s an unassuming film in that you could form of really feel like plenty of the areas simply really feel brown, however once you actually look, they’re truly actually fairly. You’ll be unsuitable. It’s not simply all brown, there’s much more to it. However I believe should you had been like squinting at this film, that may be the vibe. We didn’t actually discuss Tom Hanks’ character’s condo. To me, that’s the one I’d need out of the 2. And I actually want there was a sequel to the film the place we see them cohabitate, I’m assuming they keep collectively. 

Elsie: So what options did you want about his condo particularly? 

Emma: I simply thought it felt trendy however cool and it has that, I really feel like folks name this type masculine. I don’t actually love the gendering decor, it doesn’t actually make sense to me. However the thought is I believe it has like black steel and form of sharper edges and it tends to be just a little bit extra trendy. And I identical to trendy type, not ultra-modern, however his felt like that. There was even some form of fancy espresso machine, I really feel like that’s like out on his countertop. It simply felt like a really, I’m a enterprise individual, however this nonetheless has type, which I used to be inquisitive about. I’m a enterprise individual, however I nonetheless have type. 

Elsie: The wealthy dad of a Nora Efron film vibe. Yeah. I might see that being like your dream home, That is smart.

Emma: Yeah, out of the 2 flats, I liked hers too, however I used to be like, I’d wanna stay in his if I needed to stay in one of many two. Which is humorous trigger I believe you’d stay in hers and so then we might go to one another and it’d be nice. 

Elsie: That’s true. Yeah. We’d like to have our personal separate romcom homes. Okay, that is on my notes and I don’t assume it’s gonna come into play anyplace. However I’ve two humorous issues about Joe Fox. Initially, I believe Joe Fox is a really fake-sounding film identify. Do you assume that I simply can’t recover from the identify Joe Fox. It’s making an attempt so onerous to be informal that it sounds fully made as much as me.

Emma: Yeah, and for no matter purpose, and there in all probability is somebody on the earth named Joe Fox, however they simply sound separate from one another, which to me is at all times like a, oh, that is only a identify in a guide, you understand, or no matter as a result of they don’t really feel they’re an actual individual they usually go collectively. I don’t know why although. It doesn’t actually make sense. Possibly as a result of they’re each so quick, I don’t know. He does spend a part of the film, not saying his identify or making an attempt to omit it. I don’t assume he’s actually mendacity. He’s simply form of not saying he’s his identify.

Elsie: He’s mendacity, he’s making an attempt to not inform her who he’s, for certain.

Emma: Yeah. He realizes she’s not gonna be proud of who he’s as a result of he realizes she owns the small bookstore and his bookstore might be gonna put her outta enterprise. So he form of is like hiding his identify loads. So possibly that’s a part of it’s we are supposed to not know his identify for a part of the film or we all know that it’s being hidden. 

Elsie: Okay, the opposite factor is, that is like my favourite second of the film quote or no matter, like a humorous quote, and Jeremy and I’ve been saying it always as a joke, however I really feel like that is very like quintessential Nineteen Nineties in a approach that it doesn’t exist anymore. However after they’re within the espresso store collectively, he like places up his finger and orders a mocha decaf non-fat, like that’s his espresso order, it’s so loopy and like random, and in addition it doesn’t make sense. It’s such as you’re ordering a decaf non-fat frappuccino, it’s insane. 

Emma: Yeah, it’s like, okay, you need a chocolate milkshake however no fats, that’s horrible. 

Elsie: Yeah, I really feel like within the olden days, it was like the start of Starbucks tradition when Starbucks and solely grand millennials or grandma, millennials can bear in mind this, however like when Starbucks was truly so cool. There was a second the place it was like, I’m going to Starbucks and in You’ve Received Mail has this as a result of in one of many opening scenes, it exhibits New York Metropolis, after which it exhibits a Starbucks, it’s when Starbucks was so cool, it was not widespread. It was pretentious or fancy. I believe that folks used to get pleasure from having the longest potential espresso orders.

Emma: Yeah. I believe it was a standing image in a approach, and possibly this exhibits my age cuz I used to be early twenties and tremendous broke. So the concept of ordering a $6 drink at Starbucks was like, oh no I can not do this, I’ve no cash for that. So once you heard somebody form of get some form of grande or venti, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you’re like, wow, you have to be a wealthy individual. You’ve gotten this signature drink factor that you simply’re into, which Joe Fox is clearly wealthy due to Younger’s Barnes and Noble. 

Elsie: I find it irresistible. I find it irresistible, his character’s so nice. Okay, so vogue, I believe that Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan are the icons of the Nineteen Nineties, particularly in romcoms and their outfit outfits are very cozy. She’s carrying a cardigan and a costume with a cardigan. There’s one the place she has white tights and a skirt and it’s so cute. Sweaters, it feels very fall time. 

Emma: Yeah, additionally, Meg Ryan is beautiful, however she additionally has that very nineties hair to me, the place it has the very small highlights after which she does her center half the place it’s like backwards and forwards, crisscross. The crisscross center half, which is simply so nineties, like very highschool to me, which I truly graduated in 2004, so I assume center college for me, no matter, you get it. 

Elsie: I did the crisscross half within the nineties although, I’m not ashamed to say it.

Emma: Everybody did it. In the event you weren’t doing it, it’s such as you didn’t know. 

Elsie: It’s true, everybody wished to have hair like that within the nineties. However yeah, so far as their type, I don’t know if there’s like something they had been carrying. I believe I’d put on possibly the factor with the tights. I simply assume it’s like a basic vibe greater than an precise outfit to copy.

Emma: I additionally assume that is an period the place Tom Hanks’, Joe Fox, fits should not fairly as fitted. Issues are extra saggy, which has truly come again round. I really feel like we’re seeing plenty of that now Within the final 5 years, it’s much more saggy garments and bagger issues, folks aren’t doing the tremendous tight fitted as a lot. However yeah, that’s positively on this film, which is humorous as a result of some years after this, I really feel like all males’s fits had been very tailor-made. It’s not that they had been essentially tight, however they had been very like, that they had a match. 

Elsie: Oh, they obtained tight, they obtained very tight in some latest a long time.

Emma: Yeah, however his felt saggy, not fitted, not tailor-made in that approach but. Although clearly his character’s high-end, it’s not like these are low cost fits. You don’t have that impression. It’s simply kind of a unique period for vogue. 

Elsie: Yeah, it’s positively a unique period for vogue. Yeah. Okay, so we at all times do that. What aged nicely and what didn’t age nicely within the film? I didn’t take any notes of something that made me cringe. I can’t consider something off the highest of my head, however I assume the know-how is beautiful, it’s stunning. How completely different the early web was from what it’s now. I truly wrote down a quote that somebody stated within the film and stated, I attempted to have cyber intercourse, however I stored getting the busy sign like they’re simply so primitive. It’s so early web and I believe that everybody, I used to be gonna say You’ve Received Mail ought to be a film that performs in colleges as a method to train those that it wasn’t that way back, like to show children like our niece’s age, who’s 13. It wasn’t that way back that folks didn’t have web or that it was model new to them and that is the way it appeared. And that is how computer systems appeared and like they didn’t have telephones. Simply all this stuff like that I believe could be form of fascinating for teenagers to see. 

Emma: Yeah, and I imply, the concept of assembly somebody in a chat room after which changing into form of web pen friends to me sounds form of like, Ooh, I don’t learn about that.

Elsie: It doesn’t sound cute anymore. 

Emma: Yeah, it doesn’t sound cute anymore however assembly somebody via a courting app sounds actually regular to me. That is just like the model that that they had of that mainly. However anyway, yeah, so there’s that. I’ve at all times felt just a little bizarre about, I don’t know if that is an growing older factor, like did it age nicely, however not less than watching this after I was youthful and now, I don’t love that they’re form of each in relationships after which they’re kind of flirting with someone else on-line. However I additionally assume they form of deal with it all through the film in several methods. I do know they actually do, like when Meg Ryan’s character has her breakup, which I truly actually like that scene. I really feel prefer it’s a really grownup breakup the place each individuals are very respectful and it form of showcases that breakups generally occur simply because this simply has run its course and that’s okay. And we will nonetheless respectfully half and be trustworthy with one another about it. And I truly assume it’s a great breakup scene. Yeah, I’ve at all times felt just a little bizarre about that, however I get it relationships are messy and I do assume they form of deal with it in locations. However yeah, I don’t know, it’s form of bizarre. 

Elsie: Yeah, I’d agree with that. However I actually didn’t give it a lot thought after I was watching it. 

Emma: You had been identical to, present me extra interiors. 

Elsie: I assume for me, I wished to see her on the finish, I believe she’s beginning to write a guide possibly, it’s like she’s beginning to get a brand new dream as a result of her retailer does find yourself closing and he does find yourself successful and it’s like Barnes and Noble, no matter. I believe it’s humorous how a lot the repute of Barnes and Noble has modified as nicely as a result of now I believe it’s like an endangered species to be protected and within the nineties, it was like a monster to be stopped and now there’s a unique monster now. Anyway, I thought of her character, I’d’ve liked for her to both win or discover a resolution, discover a pivot or like some form of resolution for it, or discover a new dream that was larger and higher. That she expressed she was very enthusiastic about it. They form of alluded to it, but it surely didn’t fairly, in order that’s in all probability the factor I’d change for her. It might have been a great half too, although. 

Emma: Yeah, I do assume the sequel to this may be actually attention-grabbing and enjoyable. Yeah, however I additionally, comprehend it’s a remake and there isn’t one other, so it’s like, okay, that’s cool too.

Elsie: There’s not gonna be a remake.

Emma: Yeah, there’s not gonna be a sequel except aside from fan fiction. 

Elsie: I cried on the finish. Did you cry just a little? Did you get just a little tear? 

Emma: No, however I do like their love story. I do like the concept they’ve gotten to know each other via letters, and he or she mentions that Delight and Prejudice is her favourite guide, and it form of vibes that approach in that she misunderstands him they usually considerably misunderstand one another. Like, Mr. Darcy, you don’t know why he’s doing a few of the issues he’s doing. When she meets him on the espresso store and he has his ridiculous mochaccino order, she thinks he’s simply teasing her and antagonizing her and he or she doesn’t acknowledge that he’s the individual she was ready for, he’s the individual on the pc. So, that’s actually enjoyable and I believe they did a pleasant job with that and it’s fulfilling. 

Elsie: No, I imply it’s cute such as you need them to be collectively, they should be, there’s no different ending for this film. So we’re gonna go into trivia time now. So that is all, truly, I don’t know the place I grabbed this from, in all probability I M D B or one thing. Yeah, I like love trivia about actors, films, film units, like the place was movies, like all varieties of stuff, so we’re simply gonna geek out for a bit. The casting of Dave Chappelle as Kevin Joe’s buddy and confidant happened as a result of 4 years beforehand, Chappelle was provided the position of Bubba in Forrest Gump, which is in 1994, hank’s massive blockbuster film, which got here as a worldwide phenomenon. Chappelle turned down the position of Bubba as a result of he felt Forrest Gump would flop on the field workplace, which gave me the largest miniature tear for him. That’s a tragic one. I’m certain Dave Chappelle is doing simply high-quality, however it’s a must to stay with that. That’s in all probability the humorous factor about being an actor it’s a must to choose every script by simply your individual impression and what you’ve seen earlier than it, and also you simply by no means know, proper? 

Emma: Yeah. Effectively, and there might be an important script after which just like the director simply takes a bizarre flip or vice versa, and the script’s form of weak, you by no means know. And Forest Gump is a bizarre film, so I might form of see studying the script and being like, I don’t know if I wanna play this position. This looks as if a very unusual film, I’m unsure as a result of fairly the film.

Elsie: Yeah, no, no. I believe it’s considerably not acceptable by right this moment’s requirements, however on the time it was Blockbuster. Okay, let’s go to the following one. 

Emma: All proper, the kids’s bookstore scenes had been filmed at Maya Shaper’s cheese and Vintage Store. I’m unsure if I’m saying that appropriately, however there it’s and it’s at 106 West 69th Avenue. The filmmakers wished to make use of the vintage store as a result of it had a quaint, homey really feel that they had been going, they usually had been proper, they usually despatched the proprietor of the vintage store on trip for just a few weeks, and whereas she was gone, they turned it right into a kids’s bookshop. After the filming was completed, they put every little thing again the way in which that it was. I ponder if the shops smelled like cheese the entire time they had been filming. I’m like, cheese and vintage store. 

Elsie: Okay. Initially, I don’t know if that is nonetheless a New York Metropolis institution, but when it is aware of is I’d like to go to a cheese and vintage store. There’s this one place in Nashville that it’s like a present retailer, they usually have this little cheese fridge it’s like champagne and cheese and I find it irresistible each single time. It’s like form of like you may get just a little charcuterie to go, it’s so candy. Anyway, I believe that they positively discovered the proper location. So whoever did the scouting, I believe they need to make miniature, Oscars for no matter awards I believe folks ought to get. 

Emma: I believe there are extra awards than we see on the present. I believe that they’ve one other for extra technical areas. So possibly there’s one for locating the proper spot.

Elsie: Yeah, like scouting places I believe is an artwork and it’s very interesting to me. I’d like to be if anybody’s scouting a location for a Nora Efron esque film, and it is advisable to rent an inexperienced, highly-paid, blogger. Okay, Nora Efron organized for Meg Ryan and Heather Burns to work in actual New York Metropolis bookstores in preparation for his or her roles earlier than filming. The shop was Books of Surprise in Manhattan and the roles lasted for a couple of week. I believe that may be useful truly. I at all times say that I wanna write a novel sometime. So I at all times say that one among my lapses in judgment is that I’ve by no means labored in a restaurant and it’s such an enormous a part of tales. I believe that having experiences like that may be, that make a lot sense. I believe working in a bookstore for every week additionally would simply be enjoyable.

Emma: Yeah, I believe so too. 

Elsie: I guess they had been so excited to have Meg Ryan of their bookstore. 

Emma: I ponder in the event that they put her within the again or one thing as a result of I really feel like she would in all probability not get a lot performed if she was on the ground, everybody could be like, excuse me, are you, Meg Ryan? However yeah. And I additionally assume I’m not an actor, however I’d really feel like I’d wanna know, even one thing easy like that, like how do you learn inventory books? I wanna be taught that from somebody who’s performed it. If I used to be gonna do a scene the place I used to be a librarian, I’d wanna go work with a librarian so I perceive like how are you doing this? And what’s probably the most environment friendly approach? As a result of somebody’s gonna see this, who’s a librarian, and I need them to really feel like they’re seen, I obtained it I do know what you’re doing. I do know the little methods as a result of there are at all times little issues that somebody in an business is aware of that, different folks in all probability don’t know as a result of why would you? 

Elsie: Sure, I believe that’s an important thought. And figuring out like what you do between, you understand, once you’re not checking somebody out and also you’re not placing books on a shelf, what different issues are you want strolling round doing? 

Emma: The subsequent one is fairly humorous. I believe the situation of Fox Books within the film is the situation of Actual life, Barnes and Noble. It’s at Broadway and 83rd Avenue on the higher West aspect. You may actually inform, yeah, that Barnes and Noble generated appreciable neighborhood opposition when it opened within the early Nineteen Nineties. So very true to the movie.

Elsie: Yeah, I really feel like in our lifetime now we have seen such a shift in folks’s notion as a result of I bear in mind when Barnes and Noble had been thought-about like virtually boycottable due to small bookstores and all of that. Nevertheless it’s simply so completely different now. I’m simply completely satisfied that it exists, I’m completely satisfied I can take my children there. I additionally am glad that like 30 years sooner or later we nonetheless have small bookstores as nicely, in our cities. So it’s like we’re all nonetheless coexisting, nobody was, totally extinct, which is sweet. 

Emma: Yeah, over the weekend, simply humorous sufficient, I actually went to our Barnes and Noble and one among our native bookstores right here in Springfield. I took my son, Trey, and I went with Oscar to Barnes and Noble, and he picked out some books then the following day whereas Oscar’s napping, Trey stayed residence and I went to the native bookstore, Pation Bookstore, the one I took you to. I obtained some issues for myself, it’s just a little me time. 

Elsie: I can’t wait to go to that bookstore on a regular basis. I truly assume, although, right here’s my manufacturing. Truly, that is apparent, however I believe that finally Barnes and Noble received’t exist anymore, however native bookstores will nonetheless at all times be round. I believe that native bookstores, there’ll at all times be a spot for that, proper? Hopefully Barnes and Noble will final so long as it may too. 

Emma: Yeah, I actually went to each this weekend, so it’s working for me. 

Elsie: Yeah, my children find it irresistible, they name it the bookstore with a stage, they just like the stage, I get it. It simply has far more character books than the native bookstore which is what they need.

Emma: Yeah. Oscar obtained, what did he get? He obtained a guide that’s formed like a automobile and it has wheels on it. He loves vehicles after which has a unique automobile all through the guide. After which we additionally obtained Lama Lama Purple pajamas as a result of he didn’t personal that one but. 

Elsie: Oh, the Lama Lama sequence and the part of parenting are a few of the prime, greatest reminiscences of my entire life. Everytime you’re prepared, I’ve all of the Yodo card too. Okay, so Meg Ryan obtained her very first pc throughout the filming of this film, that has obtained to be my favourite reality. And yeah, it actually was, this was the time. What yr did it say this film got here out? 1998, so that they had been filming it in all probability in like 1997 or six. And folks had been nonetheless getting residence computer systems. We’ve got to look at this with Penny, let’s strive to try this. Watch it with Penny and Bella sometime and simply see their reactions as a result of we had been in highschool or I used to be in highschool when this film got here out. To me, it’s an outdated film, but it surely was not likely outdated.

Emma: It’s fairly outdated. We’re outdated man. 

Elsie: No, yeah, it’s outdated, however I imply, I wasn’t just a little child when it got here out. Have you learnt what I imply? Yeah. It’s so attention-grabbing, I just like the know-how time capsule component of it’s unmatched.

Emma: Okay, subsequent trivia is one among Nora Efron’s signature filmmaking quirks was her use of songs to intensify plot factors. So one of many chief parts that led her movies to be termed chick flicks. When Meg Ryan and Tom Hank’s characters lastly meet in individual each figuring out that they’ve been emailing one another, the music over the rainbow performs on the movie soundtrack and the duo shared a scene with the identical music in Sleepless in Seattle.

Elsie: That’s cute. I haven’t watched Sleepless in Seattle in latest historical past, so possibly we’ll have to try this one over time, that’s actually candy. I believe that they’re like a great film couple for certain. Okay, the following one is Kathleen’s Bookstore is the store across the nook an homage to a film? The film was primarily based on 1940. I truly examine that a few instances. In order that’s cute, proper? It’s named after a film.

Emma: Yeah. I’ve by no means seen the unique of You’ve Received Mail, I haven’t seen. That is the remake and I’ve by no means seen the unique one.

Elsie: They’re saying the film was referred to as The Shopper on the Nook, not You’ve Received Mail.

Emma: Yeah, so isn’t You’ve Received Mail a remake of one other film I believe it’s referred to as Store Across the Nook and the know-how’s completely different. The opposite one is letter writing however this one is just like the web, very completely different know-how, but it surely’s like the identical film.

Elsie: Oh, okay, nevermind. I simply discovered one thing new. That’s superior. Then we must always watch that, that’s cool. I assumed it was simply the identify, that’s so attention-grabbing. I don’t watch plenty of films earlier than the fifties and I wish to, I’d need to, and even like films from just like the 20s, 30s, and forties, it’s fairly uncommon to seek out them streaming and in addition to seek out them being beneficial or know what they’re about. They don’t have trailers so you possibly can’t examine them mountain that approach. So yeah, if anybody has kind of a primer for outdated films earlier than 1950, the place it’s like prime three, one thing like that, that’s manageable. I’d love to listen to it as a result of I believe that’s one thing I’d wish to get into, however I’ve not watched hardly any, largely simply horror.

Emma: Yeah, I used to be gonna say, I really feel like you could have seen some outdated horror. I do know you guys have seen the seventies, however there’s gotta be some outdated ones, you understand, Hitchcock-era stuff. Ought to we give this a score? 

Elsie: So the score is from zero to 5 bouquets of freshly sharpened pencils. I simply assume there’s no approach it’s getting a 5. Truly, I wanna offer you mine. I need mine to be, mine is 5 Mochaccinos decaf, non-fat. Yeah, I liked it. I believe I’ve watched it truly twice within the final two years, which I believe is just a little an excessive amount of, however as soon as each three to 4 years I believe is an effective quantity. In the event you haven’t watched it in 5 years, watch it like instantly. It’s fully great and iconic and I don’t know, I really feel prefer it’s a fall film and a spring film too, in order that’s onerous to say cuz it has each.

Emma: Yeah, it has all seasons, and Yeah. And possibly we talked about this in one of many different rewatch episodes, I can’t bear in mind, however I really feel like they’re not making as many romcoms which are massive as in theaters. I believe they’re extra like Netflix has its personal, or HBO Max has its personal which continues to be cool and I nonetheless like watching these, however I really feel like there should not as many romcoms had been like all people revisits these. I believe it’s actually enjoyable to see what was the factor that was within the film theaters and all people went with their mother. 

Elsie: Do you assume there was a Romcom period?

Emma: Yeah. I really feel like now it’s like, issues which are in film theaters are usually extra, it appears like motion and like family-friendly issues. Which is cool, I like each of these. However I really feel like I don’t see as many romcoms which are like all people noticed within the theaters, not that everybody even goes to the theaters anymore. I form of missed that period, I like revisiting all these. 

Elsie: Yeah, we’ll hold doing romcoms, we are going to dig for the gold as a result of there are such a lot of and I really feel like we’ll in all probability do consolation re-watches for not less than a few years as a result of there are such a lot of films on our listing. We’re not gonna get to them rapidly.

Emma: Oh yeah, folks e mail us new ones each week. 

Elsie: So it’s true, I really like these emails. Okay, it’s time for everybody’s favourite a part of our present, A joker, a reality with Nova, and I believe this week now we have a joke.

Nova: This week the joke is, what’s Santa when he stops? 

Elsie: What’s he? 

Nova: Santa Pause. Get it, he pauses for a second. 

Elsie: That’s actually good, I like that one. You wanna say bye. 

Nova: See you quickly and have an important day. 

Elsie: You probably have a consolation re-watch request, we might love to listen to it. Our entire listing is only a request. So e mail us anytime at podcast@ lovely mess.com. And yeah, we’ll be again subsequent week with our spring bucket listing episode.